User talk:Bold Clone

Check the Manual of Style before you edit; you need to write articles in the past tense. Mi gh ty Me 21:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Why? BC 21:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it's the way we do things around here. Mi gh ty Me 21:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. What an excellant reason for that rule. BC 21:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

And why do you keep removing information from the mask pages? Mi gh ty Me 21:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

It's unneeded or unimportant. BC 21:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You are intentionally removing info from this wiki. Continue to do so, and you will be blocked. - Panaka lego  22:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

If you want to know why we write our articles in past tense, we had a poll open a while ago about it, and the clear majority supported writing articles in the past tense. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 22:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, well I think it sounds awkward. 'The Kanohi Jutlin was the Great Mask of Corruption. It had the ability to cause inanimate objects to rot and break down.' What, it was the Mask of Corruption, but now it isn't? It could corrode stuff, but now it can't? I know I can't just say, 'This sounds stupid. Use some common sense and change it!', but the 'Use Past Tense Only' policy stinks. BC 00:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Bold Clone--the reason we use past tense is from the point of view that the BIONICLE story took place a long time ago. "The Kanohi Jutlin was the Great Mask of Corruption in the ancient days of the BIONICLE" not "The Kanohi Jutlin was the Great Mask of Corruption, but now it isn't." Also, when new story comes out, old stuff has to be rewritten in past tense anyway, and it's easier to have it already in past tense in the first place.
 * Keep in mind this isn't BS01. Read the rules, though, and there won't be a problem. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 14:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but the problem is when I disagree with the rules. 'The Jutlin was the Mask of Corruption.' What makes you think the story took place a long time ago? Why is it implied 'in the ancient days of the BIONICLE'? Antroz wears the Jutlin now, so the Mask article should be written as if it were it now. BC 14:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * BC: If you disagree with the rules, then that's your problem. Like Auserv said, those rules were set by the community over a year ago, it's too late to change them now. - Panaka lego  15:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The rules are unchangeable? BC 15:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Can the rules be changed? Sure. Does that mean they will be changed for just one member? No. And besides, most people are already in the groove of past-tense writing; changing it to present-tense so suddenly would be a bit unreasonable.


 * As for your question about what makes us think the story took place a long time ago: the intros to 2001 always stated that this was "in the time before time" (or something). I never got the impression that the story was taking place "now". ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 22:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Too bad for you. And the intros only stated that Mata Nui fell asleep in the before-time. That doesn't apply to all the BIONICLE storyline, just the original legends of Mata Nui's slumber. BC 23:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * We have told you why we do it, that should be enough for you. We will not change them unless a group of people suddenly want it changed. And even then, we would vote on it.
 * BTW, Blanking a page is vandalism, don't do it again. - Panaka lego  23:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Why do you do it in past tense, for the record? And those pages were useless and merely taking up space. Also, your explantion is not enough for me. BC 01:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You have been already told (twice!) why we do this stuff in past tense. And you are a new user, don't tell us what wastes space and what doesn't. - Panaka lego  01:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I told you once and I'll tell you again: it's a waste. Period. Only one person ever wore most of the masks, and we're likely to never see them again. Why should we have them? It's written in past tense because to original stories about Mata Nui said it happened in the Before-Time, right? BC 02:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand why you think it's a waste, but we don't think it's a waste, so they stay. And yes and no, that was the original reason, plus, it would simply be too inconvenient to change that now. Do you get it now? - Panaka lego  02:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Stop removing information! Mi gh ty Me 02:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Prove that it's not a waste, Panakalego. I dare you. And I would help on changing the tense for the Kanohi articles. BC 02:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Look, BC. I've already said that we will not be changing the tense rule for one member. Do you think if I went to BS01 and said I thought it was really stupid how they wrote their articles in present-tense, Swert or ET or whoever would feel compelled to change the rule for the entire wiki? It wouldn't matter how much I reasoned with them, it just wouldn't happen. BS01 is also a lot more strict than us, so who knows what would've happened to you there if you had been talking like this to one of their staff members.


 * And finally, I'll remind you that if you don't want to be here, no one is stopping you from leaving and going back to BS01. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 13:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This isn't nothing. And I want to be here. You don't want me here. Kazi, please stay out of this. It doesn't concern you. And since the story happens now, the articles (or at least most of them) should be written in present. There's no reason for anyone to say 'that's stupid. Make'm all past tense.' BC 22:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

We have told you again and again: the information you remove is not unnecessary, and we write in past tense, and that's not going to change. Mi gh ty Me 00:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't not want you here, we just want you to remmber your place. Rules are rules, they are set for a reason. You are setting a bad rep for yourself. - Panaka lego  00:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't care if you're here or not. If you're going to act like this, though, I don't particularly want you here. This is not BS01, and you will not be able to change it into BS01. I won't argue the point any further. Also, it isn't up to you what information is unnecessary and what isn't. If you have a problem with the information on a page, mention it on the talk page. You aren't too far away from being blocked, if you keep up this edit warring. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 00:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Rules are rules, but their reasons for existing aren't always good. BC 13:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're exactly right, but that doesn't give you an excuse not to follow them. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 13:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Why does anyone disobey a rule? BC 13:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Depends on the person. To use wiki-specific examples, a vandal will disobey a rule for the adrenaline rush it gets them to do something bad and give someone else a problem (at least I think that's what goes on their sick minds). Someone like you will bend a rule for your own convenience, or because you don't like the rule (despite whether this opinion is justified or not). And then a new user will occasionally disobey a rule unintentionally, because they didn't know it was there. None of them are good reasons. In fact, there is never a "good" reason to break a rule on a wiki. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 14:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Or any rule, and we could continue this debate forever. Bold Clone: do you have anymore questions? - Panaka lego  14:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm not going to be able to change you, (but I won't change) so will your allow me to stay here? BC 14:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Feel free to stay here and work on whatever pages you want, just remember to abide by the rules chosen by a majority of users. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 17:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * And please do not remove information. Mi gh ty Me 17:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, whatever. As long as I don't get banned by you guys. BC 18:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It's Me Kazi22.
 * Hey. I didn't know it was you. Can we talk this Plasma stuff over, or should just call some staff over? BC 16:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Listen we are friends and I am going to be staff on this site soon anyways. So we can work this out. Cheers Kazi22 ----- Talk 30 May 2008

Sanok
Check the talk page. Hewkii didn't wear a Sanok as a Matoran. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 17:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I think he did wear it a short time before becoming a Toa.-Mata Nui 18:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

You check the Talk and tell me. He wore it briefly, in BL#2:DD. --BC 19:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

BS01
Yo Buddy, kazi here any idea on what is up with BS01? For some reason I can't get on. Cheers Kazi22 ----- Talk 24 October 2008

Swert said the server was down because he was late paying the rent for the site (I think). The site should be up within a couple days. BC 14:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't get on it either... -Mata N</Font>ui</Font> 12:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

BC, if I were you I would be careful on what I say around here. Got it? <font color="Blue" style="background:Yellow">Toa Kazi -----<font color="Blue" style="background:Yellow"> EDDIE!!!
 * Yes, your rebellious attitude is only accomplishing getting the admins, among others, sick of you. Try showing some humility for once--I know for a fact that you would've been banned a thousand times over if you acted like this on BS01. BS01 has a "Respect Policy", which I think you need to take a look at and apply to your actions on this wiki too. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 03:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Look BC, like we've said before, we don't want you gone, but you will eventually find yourself unable to be here if you deny an opinion simply because it's not what you think. You had a really bad attitude on the Talk:Mask of Copying page, you denied what both a Rollbacker and administrator told you. And you replied in a very insulting way. I will not hesitate to ban you if you ever use the term "bull" (or anything similar) again. Are we all clear on this? You've been warned enough times, so learn it or face the punishment. Panaka  lego  07:07, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "...but you will eventually find yourself unable to be here if you deny an opinion simply because it's not what you think." That mask title is non-canon. Does anyone disagree? That is not an opinion, but an undeniable fact. I'm sorry for the bad behavior, but false info (like that mask title) presented as a fact gets me real mad. BC 22:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No one is attempting to crucify you because you mentioned that the mask name was non-canon; the problem started when you directly defied an admin and a rollbacker and replied in a downright rude way. On BS01, you aren't even allowed to revert an admin's edit unless they made an obvious error. We're more lenient than that, but you can't take advantage of that. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 23:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * And as for the name: We chose Mask of Copying because that's what it does, which is just as important as who wore it. It's also a bit more factual then "Pourks's Mask" is, so we went with the more factual title. When the real name is decided upon at BZP, we'll teleport it to that. Does that help with your reasoning? Panaka  lego  ( Ad min) 07:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really. I understand why you decided to chose the title, but it is still non-canon, period. Nothing can change the fact that it's non-canon and is merely fan-made, hypothetical speculation, and is illigetimate content on this site. BC 15:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

EL
BC, what are you talking about? How could they not be elemental? Yes, they're not made of their respectively element, but they do control elements, making them elemental. M</Font>ata</Font> N</Font>ui</Font> (TBW Bureaucrat) 21:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The Toa aren't Elemental Beings, are they? --Bold Clone 21:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, you're accusing an administrator and bureaucrat for vandalism? Right... Anyways, you mean Toa aren't elemental beings? Well, that's a question of definition. I would count anything (nearly) controlling an element an elemental being. M</Font>ata</Font> N</Font>ui</Font> (TBW Bureaucrat) 21:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait, you're an important person? I take back any accusation of vandalism. Sorry. What I mean is that even though they have Elemental powers, they aren't actually made of their Element, which I think is the correct definition. Oh, well...--Bold Clone 21:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm an important person, but that doesn't mean mean you're wrong. As I said, it's a question about definition. BTW, didn't you see it in my signature? M</Font>ata</Font> N</Font>ui</Font> (TBW Bureaucrat) 21:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, BTW, I'll use this a quote on my UP on BS01, if you don't have anything against it? M</Font>ata</Font> <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">N</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ui</Font> ( TBW Bureaucrat ) 22:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, just tell me if you want me to remove it. <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">M</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ata</Font> <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">N</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ui</Font> ( TBW Bureaucrat ) 22:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I did see it, but I thought it meant BzPower Admin. My bad. And no, i don't have anything against it. Bold Clone 22:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, good. <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">M</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ata</Font> <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">N</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ui</Font> ( TBW Bureaucrat ) 10:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)