Talk:The Bionicle Wiki/Archive III

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Organization
Hey guys, I'm new to these parts. My name's Shawn, and I'm a Wikia Helper checking the place out. You guys have a pretty amazing database built up so far - there's definitely a lot more to it than I originally thought (I'm something of an old-old-schooler, as the only sets I have are some of the original Happy Meal promo kits and the first Onua).

I do have a couple of suggestions simply regarding organization. I've been looking around the books sections and noticed there's not really any kind of set template for them. Some of the book articles are more organized than others - might it help users coming in solely looking for info if there was something more standardized?

I also noticed a lot of uncategorized pages that might have something to do with BIONICLE video games (things like enemies, locations, etc.), but I wasn't sure as I'm not too familiar with them. How do you guys treat video games within the BIONICLE mythology, and would there be a good way to categorize them in their own section? Shawn 19:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Shawn. I just want to tell you that I have a story that I am writing about Bionicles. It's on my Userpage. Please check it out and tell me what you think.Brandox 17:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Please leave all new messages at the bottom. People will be more likely to read the message. Anyways I'll work on the uncategorized pages. MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 19:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Shawn. You brought up two very good points; allow me to be the first to address them (though hopefully not the last, since I would like to hear my fellow admins' opinions on this). =)


 * About the books, we have a Manual of Style, but there is no entry for a book article, which is why there is no set template. Changes will have to be made to the Manual of Style accordingly. As for the actual process of standardizing them we are working on creating a project page where things that need work are posted for anyone to work on; this will be put on there when we get around to making it.


 * I would also agree with you about the video games; in my personal opinion I think it would be wise to have an "Expanded Universe" entry under the Bionicle Knowledge section where we would list video games and other things that don't fit in to the Bionicle canon. Most video game enemies and locations are canon, but the reason they are uncategorized is simply because no one's gotten around to it, LOL. Things like that would also go on the to-do list page. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 19:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thankfully I am a category nut. MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 19:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * My bad on placing the message in the wrong place, MarioGalaxy! But I'm glad you like the suggestions, guys. I did notice this page had a very nice layout, as it also includes a Contents box. And as far as an Expanded Universe goes, the game info would be a perfect launchpad to start from. I did have another question about how the community actually handles the toys themselves; are they not really a concern here? I'm thinking it might be a useful resource for collectors to go into what kind of packaging is used on which sets, and what sets contain for parts. Is that kind of thing doable, or is the focus more towards the story and characters? Shawn 19:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * With regards to the latter, I don't know. If not, we should be under another hub. MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 20:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We focus on the story rather than the actual Bionicle sets, though we do have a sort of iffy "Set Information" section under a lot of the character pages. We do have a "Sets" hub, but it's just a list of all of the Bioncle sets. Perhaps we could have a separate page for each character's set information. It would certainly take a lot of work but it might be worth it. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 20:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Set Information is fantastic! It would just need to be a standard part of the character pages. Having the Sets articles link back to the character pages is a great idea and would be a good way to keep the article organization tidy. Like MarioGalaxy says, keeping a record of the actual toys is what keeps this a Hobby wiki rather than an Entertainment one. All this is stuff that's just off the top of my head right now, but I'd love to keep a dialogue on it going! Shawn 20:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I think we might want to look at the neighboring Brickapedia for ideas. MarioGalaxy2433g5 { talk /contribs/Logs} 20:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This isn't intended as much as a knock on Brickipedia as much as a testament to how well you guys have been doing so far, but I don't really like their organization at all. They have very few links that can take you directly to useful info and not much information on any random set's article. I think what they HAVE done well is organized the information they do have info boxes under product art. Maybe that'd be a good direction to take? Shawn 21:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, disregard that whole statement. I'm brand new to this community and you all, and the last thing I want is to come off as trying to tell you how the wiki should be run. We can come back to it as an issue later if you guys want to, but right now I'm here to help. Cool? Shawn 22:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Boo! Sorry about not being online today, it was a busy day for me. About set info: a lot of people don't care about how many pieces are in the sets when they're looking for storyline info (which is mainly why we exist), but I don't really see anything wrong with it. And with all this talk about books, we could do with a few templates for each series.


 * BTW: Hello, Multimoog/Shawn, you are a wikia helper, aren't guys supposed to shout out ideas like this? =P -- Panaka lego  00:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * About the pieces, yes they would. If they lost the box, they would want to know if they lost any pieces. MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 19:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Why would they come here for it? Most users will just think it's clutter, but I think we should vote on it. -- Panaka lego  02:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

If they lost the box they wouldn't know how many pieces there are. Why would they come here? The answer is, Search Engines. Also if we don't include the information, I'll ask Wikia to move the wiki to a different hub. MarioGalaxy2433g5 { talk /contribs/Logs} 19:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I still say we should vote on it. -- Panaka lego  19:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, we should. Personally I'm in favor of it--it'll give us something other Bionicle reference sites don't have--but we should still vote on it. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 22:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * A vote's good, and mine (obviously) goes to 'yes'. It seems that having a comprehensive repository of all BIONICLE information would only make this wiki stronger. And following the basic wiki principle, it shouldn't be too much work - if a template is constructed, and everyone listed the pieces for at least one set they own, a lot of info would be filled in quickly and easily. Shawn 22:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Then I shall create it and link to it from the site notice, I'll go ahead and link to it here for you guys: Lego Bionicle:Vote For Pieces. -- Panaka lego  00:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, it sounds like: "Vote for pieces! Vote for pieces for class president!" Just thought I'd point that out. -- Panaka lego  02:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And I just lol'd, so that's a good thing :P Shawn 03:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Books
Wow, I had no idea my piece count suggestion would be taken so well! That's awesome!

I've been thinking a bit about the Books section again as well, and how we could use a template for it. I like this page, as it really just adds a Contents box at the top, and makes the page look a little more orderly. It wouldn't require much of a change to the contents of most book articles otherwise, as the sidebar is already standard. Alternately, we could remove the Contents boxes from those book articles that have them. Thoughts? Shawn ( talk ) 18:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I say it's something to consider, but I have no feedback for this. -- Panaka lego  14:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism.
There are some newly created pages to be deleted!Mata NuiTalk Contribs 08:36, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Columns
Even if I use Monaco, the Main Page looks really ugly in columns. It's even worse in MonoBook. It was good before, but that gets pushed down a lot by the ads in Monaco now.  ~ L  i  h 
 * I agree, is it really needed? This is just getting out of hand. -- Panaka lego  05:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * However, if we don't use columns, the ad box will push the entire page down. See Sannse's page that would show what Wikitroid's Main Page will eventually be like when the second ad comes. Wikitroid doesn't have the second ad on the main page yet, possibly because they are smaller than us. MarioGalaxy2433g5  10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 15:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikia really wants all the wikis to use the new format. If you don't believe me see this. You might want to redesign the main page so that it works better with the ads, because soon enough all wikis will have the ad box on the main page, whether it fits the design or not.--M atoro 183 (Talk) 15:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Categorize the Main Page?
It is probably going to happen because it is on the Uncategorized pages. What should we categorize it under? MarioGalaxy2433g5 10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 16:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ? -- Panaka lego  16:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * On another wiki Im at, we have a "" for any articles that don't fit into anything else. - LD760 { Grovel for mercy }[[Image:Mr.L.PNG]] 07:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC) But that might not always work here.

I agree with Panakalego

New Mistika pictures.
Hi guys! Do you have any good pictures for the Mistika Page? Btw917 00:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Did You Know...
Hi I just made an edi on the Did You Know section on the main page whick is also about Bionicle Heroes that is true about the Toa Inika all having four-spikked feet which is true. If you don't believe me look at pictures or videos of the Toa from this game which show their feet. -Bioleader 09:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

New Banner Logo
Great job on the new banner logo guys, it looks so much better on the main page! LegoLover 17:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Woah! Eye-catching. I don't mean to sound nit-picky, but could whoever made it (and did a great job) get those little black corners covered up? Other than that, I think it's great. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 15:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be Hammerise who made it. MarioGalaxy2433g5  10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 16:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, what black corners, Daiku?  • Hammerise
 * Do you not see black corners around thet text (particularly in the top-right corner)? - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 17:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, didn't see them before, but I can fix it, no prob.  • Hammerise
 * Better? =)  • Hammerise
 * Tried to fix the "A"... is it good now or was it better before?  • Hammerise
 * Seems I'm talking to myself again...oh, well  • Hammerise
 * The ad box covers up the ia. -- 20:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

(Undent) Not on my browser. I use IE 7. MarioGalaxy2433g5 10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not the browser, it's the screen width.-- 19:18, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

BioSector01
Person-ol-ly I like that wiki better... Its even connected to Bzpower! But of course I will try edit this pedia.--Vzing

Featured Image
I think we should add a featured image section to the main page. What do y'all think? 22:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC) LEGOLOVER { Talk to me. }

Hmm....good idea, I like that. |\/|akao |\/|istika {  Talk  |  contribs  |  Signature Archive  }

Overlap
Something is wrong with the coding or something, and it's making the featured article overlap yer logo. :O  «| Bfa |» 
 * We know, it's the stupid ads wikia put on the main page. Not the featured article template. I'll try to fix it soon... -- Panaka lego  15:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see it overlapping. Must be your browser or something. It is fine on IE7. MarioGalaxy2433g5  10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 15:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Well something isn't right… :/  «| Bfa |» 

New Edit Tab
Hey guys - Wikia is trying a new experiment with getting new people to edit pages. What we want to do is change the Edit bar at the top of pages so there's a simple tab around "Edit This Page", which will make it stand out a bit. The idea is that this will make it more eye-catching to users who aren't as familiar with the Monaco look as some of you are.

Like I say, this is an experiment. What we want to do is take the data from, say, the past month and compare it against a two-week trial period where we'll have the Edit tab active, and compare to see if there's a change in the number of viewers editing pages. We want to use Bioniclepedia, since we need info from a new Toys wiki, and you guys have a lot of traffic through here. You can see an example of how it looks in use on Muppet Wiki.

Let me know what you think! Shawn ( talk ) 21:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I didn't get any responses to this, so I went ahead and made the change. If anyone has a question, please ask! Shawn ( talk ) 18:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Shawn, I'm sorry I didn't notice this earlier. Your help is appreciated. -- Panaka lego  22:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I could've sworn I replied to this. Oh well - I was gonna say it's a great idea. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 00:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool - and thanks for letting us do the experiment here. You guys are a great community! Shawn ( talk ) 05:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, that's one way to get people to switch over to Monaco. But I'll stick with Monobook on BS01 xD -- BS01Swert 07:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The thing is, I can't tell the difference. MarioGalaxy2433g5  10+ { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So, what's everybody's opinions on this? Honestly, it's throwing me off - I keep thinking that the white tab is the article tab, and that the edit tab is right next to it. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 00:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't have a problem with it myself. -- Panaka lego  00:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Skin and Wikia Spotlights
Does anyone agree with me that this place needs a new look? an admin can change the skin you know! Also, who agrees with me that This wiki should be requested for Wikia Spotlights? -- Pirakafreak24 (that's me!) ( TALK!!!! ) Life is full of too much homework. 03:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Petition against rating
Do you, like most, dislike the rating system? Well, sign here to stop the rating system. Unsure of wheather to sign or not? then read this essay. -- Or my name isn't...Pirakafreak24!!!!  ( PUH-LEASE leave a message! ) Bioniclepedia and Disney Channel Wiki ROCK! 23:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

2009 Info
I was wondering if we have any policy yet towards 2009 info. Also, because we're entering a whole new era of BIONICLE, we need to discuss any changes that need to be made to templates, sidebar, etc. LEGOLOVER { Talk to me. } 23:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I thik the skin should be changed. Not that theres anything wrong with it, I just think that it could be changed. Blue and white is the default skin. We could even customize the skin. I just think it would look better. As for the sidebar, maybe add a category for Toa and Villians or something? The rating system needs to be improved abit.-- MichaelCrichtonfan24 (PF24) ( Talk ) It is my regret to inform you that Michael Crichton has died of cancer. I am sad. 04:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

This week's featurd article is...
Has anyone else noticed that the article of the week has been the article of the week for months now? -- Twilightfan24 (PF24) ( Talk ) I'm going to see Twilight on Teusday!!!! http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif 06:52, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Tell User:LegoLover, he said he is in charge of it. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Main Page in New Category?
Why is the Main Page in the Matoran Universe category? I can't exactly say that it belongs... Panaka lego  19:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it's because of the templates, like how a few users have categories too. OsmiuMap 20:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops, I think that's my fault... I'll fix it tommorow...  • Hammerise( talk )
 * It doesn't say it is on the bottom of the page, but on the sidebar. Wierd. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 15:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Notices
I noticed in the notice section that the first notice states no copying from other Bionicle sites, but we're copying from BIONICLEstory.com all the time. So it it only referencing BS01? If so, it's unneeded, a BS01 member can report and prove if they think a member copied something. They already do anyway, exept for the prove part, but it's not hard to look up anyway. We mention no copying in the site rules page, that should be enough. BTW: I have my widgets set to see problem reports the moment I log in, so I'll get to it faster when actually reported. Panaka lego  (BP Ad min) 04:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

RE:Lego Bionicle:Request for Site Leader
I suggest you put a link to that on the Main Page and the Sitenotice. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/custombionicle/images//6/6b/TheOracle_Sig.png 17:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler in the search box
This seems like the best place to put this. I was just waiting for the recent changes to load up when the words "Teridax loses!" flashed up for a second in the place of the search thing. I'm unsure if i've missed something but this seems like a spoiler to me. Could someone who knows more than me about search boxes maybe look into that?
 * That's odd. In fact, that's very odd. I can't get that to show up - what page were you on before you went to Recent Changes? - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 19:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Strange... BTW, it's not really a spoiler, because everyone knows sooner or later Teridax will have to lose. =P ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 19:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Well I was on recent changes (i've got main & all saved in my favorites) It automatically comes recent changes all when I turn on the Internet, so I clicked main and the spoiler cam up in the space of the searchbox for a few seconds, then it disappeared and the normal left hand side stuff showed up.


 * I tried the same thing, and I can't get it to show up. But even so, as Auserv said, it's not a spoiler, since Teridax losing isn't a spoiler for any upcoming material. Although it is a most curious glitch - let me know if you get it again. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 23:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Wait, so when you go to recent changes, the search box in the left says "Teridax Loses!" for a second, then dissapears when everything comes up? <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> Ld760 <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> O HAI

Correction, it DID but only when the page was loading. It appears to be fixed now but I advise everyone to keep an eye on the search box in future incase this is more serious than it looks. I'm not saying it will, but if it does happen again then report it here. It could be more serious next time... if it happens again...

Oh! sorry Auserv! I must have missed your bit on how it isn't a spoiler. Well why would anyone (or anything if it was a glitch or a bug or something) actually put something to do with the future story line down in the search box for no reason? Anyway, we don't know what will happen yet. For the past eight years Bionicle has surprised us with year finalies we never would have expected. 2006, who knew bionicle would go from the barren wastelands of Voya Nui to the watery world of Mahri nui? 2003, Who knew bionicle would go from the island paradice of Mata nui to the ciy of Metru nui 1000 years ago? Bionicle could just have the entire universe gang up on Teridax, he kills them all, and the great beings come and beat him up?! Its unlikely but it could happen and Teridax would actually win in a way! As a wise bionicle once said (I forget which one) "The future is not set in stone" Anyway, the future sertainly is not set in stone and as i am trying to explain, could be completely different to what people think will happen. I can come up with for this is that someone randomly inserted "Teridax loses!" into one of the MediaWiki pages, but only an admin can do that, and what admin would? Besides, searching the MediaWiki pages, I don't see anything in any of the coding that says that. ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 22:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Ill try and find some MediaWiki pages and see if there's anything in them. <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> Ld760 <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> O HAI
 * Are you sure you weren't on my Userpage? I've placed "Teridax looses." just over the search box.(Thats what I want to happen, I have no idea if it will.) <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">M</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ata</Font> <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">N</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ui</Font> http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (BP Rollbacker) 10:11, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Ahh... I had SOMEONE'S user page open in a second tab, I must have been on yours when i opened the new tab! OK then, that solved another misunderstanding!

BS01-BPedia Bara Magna Map
Link to Map.

Just so everybody on BPedia understands the score here.

BS01 (led by me) owns Roxtus, Tajun and Tesara.

BPedia (currently led by Panakalego) owns Vulcanus, Iconox and The Wastelands. (If I could find a page here, I'd link it.)

BS01 also owns the Black Spike Mountains, and the Hot Springs.

BPedia also owns the White Quartz Mountains, and one quarter of an Oasis we found. Currently, they have an "alliance" with Bonehunters.

BS01 pledged to destroy said Bonehunters when their usefulness is at an end. BPedia has agreed.

The line connecting the Tesara and Roxtus areas is an underground tunnel. This way, neither area is cut off from each other by the BPedia borders. It is only for transportation, not for bad stuff.

The city of Atero and Creep Canyon are off-limits.

Now, what this all mean? It means BS01 and BPedia are more or less not fighting. We're at the competiton stage XD -- BS01Swert 10:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh.

...wait, what? - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 19:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Panakalego and I worked on this last night.

Both of us got bored. -- BS01Swert
 * I wouldn't have used the word "bored", tired maybe. xD
 * So where is the center of activity for this? Where will the deals and trades get made? Panaka  lego  (BP Ad min) 21:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay...first thing we've gotta do is secure that underground tunnel - have we got any Toa of Stone around? Then we'll be able to launch a campaign against the northern part. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 22:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hah, just like BS01's thing where all the sysops were battling each other, lawl. But how exactly will this work? What will happen? (Unsigned comment made by Legodude760)

Well, I honestly don't know, it's something we did for fun. xD Panaka  lego  (BP Ad min) 05:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I am RB Master Gresh 21:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

hi swert! how can i help? -thoron/mtmerrick

Columns II
http://i33.tinypic.com/28vvqjr.jpg

They're overlapping. http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/custombionicle/images//6/6b/TheOracle_Sig.png 19:24, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Icon?
I am making a site with some Bionicle information for the New Zealand Netguide Web Challenge, and I was trying to find a picture for the little icon the comes up next to the website name. Can someone please upload an icon of something like Takua's mask, or the Kanohi Ignika? || Jimbob1. You can talk to me. WOW!!! || 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, don't worry, I found the biosector website and will use their one. || Jimbob1. You can talk to me. WOW!!! || 23:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Wtf
Ok, the Polish wiki just ripped off the design of BS01's main page design and a few other things. Can someone go talk to them so that they know that's plagarism or something? <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> Ld760 <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> O HAI

"We'll need to change all of the links to Endless Ocean Planet to Aqua Magna."
There are no more links to "Endless Ocean Planet." I checked its 'what links here'. Can we take down the annoying message now? Terik 02:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Oo.. Your good! Nice work my friend! Yes, I think we can change it now.

Um, is there GOOD reason that everything is now, um, desert brown? rather than the white?Toafan13 15:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Why? Don't you like it? The reason it has changed is because Bionicle is in Bara Magna now, not Aqua Magna, so we thought the last skin was too Aqua Magna and, if we are to continue, we have to fit with the times and change to a more current skin. (My rubbish explanation!) Basically, this skin is more Bara Magna. Hope I helped.

Delete please
Can someone please delete this (it's at the bottom of the main page).  • Hammerise( talk ) 18:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC) Bioniclepedia <link rel="apple-touch-icon" href="http://images.wikia.com/bionicle/images/b/bc/Wiki.png"/>
 * I don't know why it's there, but I have a feeling it's important. Maybe it we remove the nowiki tags? <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">M</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ata</Font> <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">N</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ui</Font> (The BIONICLE Wiki Bureaucrat) 19:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed it. It didn't seem to work... <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">M</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ata</Font> <Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#000077">N</Font><Font size="4" Face="Mistral" Color="#6699FF">ui</Font> (The BIONICLE Wiki Bureaucrat) 22:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

RPG
Hi guys. I'm mtmerrick. I'd like to tell you about an text-based RPG I run, which, for lack of a better name when it was created, is simply called Space Wars. It is a Star Trek meets Star Wars Universe, set in the year 3009.

We use the Star Wars timeline, but pushed forward 100 years, so we can factor in the real life timeline, and things that take place in the timeline since Star Trek began having discrepancies with real life, like Lilo and Stitch, and Ben 10.

The Milky Way and the Triangulum Galaxy were destroyed by the Borg, but after the Borg were wiped out, My character, Marik, and a changeling named Raks made a new galaxy, simply called he Great Galaxy. However, the relative peace and stability of the Federation-Republic is being destroyed by the IESA, a faction of Sith, combined with every other bad guy in the local group, and the Anterian ShadowClan, a group of demented aliens from the farthest reaches of the universe, who are out for conquest of the Great galaxy.

You can join the Jedi, Starfleet, the Sith, or even be a space pirate! Any aliens from the Ben 10, Lilo and Stitch (no experiments though), Star Trek, or Star Wars are allowed, or make your own species!

Now how does this apply to bionicle, you ask? In 2090, the Matoran Universe was found. Centuries ago, Teridax, as Mata Nui, had lifted off Aqua Magna into space, and Pohtau used his Rohtoch to blast through the southern continent's dome. sadly, this meant that everything and everyone was sucked out of the MU, and killed in the vacuum of space. when the StarFleet archeology team came, they found that humans could use the Kanohi. In an attempt to create an army to drive off the IESA, StarFleet tried to use transporter tech to bring them back to life, but because of the half-matter half-energy of their DNA (Viruses) all atttempts ended in catastrophic explosions. But, before the project was scrapped, about two dozen toa had been created.

Now when Everything got sucked out of the MU, I mean everything. Including Terry's antidermis. It was frozen in the cold vaccumm of space, mut recently, My character has thawed him out. >:D (Funny to note, i'm a good guy. :P ) And also, a group of semi-reformed bounty hunters have decided to free Miserex!

How did this happen? Will they Meet? how 'bout Epic Battles? planets blowing up?

want to know the answes to these questions? (most are yes. :P ) come on over and sign up!

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if you're interested, come, sign up!

--Mtmerrick 16:09, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

????? WHA.....????? This is one of those moments where I curse my parents for shielding me from society and not letting me watch Star Wars... Anyway, forgive me but its about 3am in my time zone and I'm too tired to remember my own name and haven't quite read the whole thing, but, briefly, what does this have to do with bionicle, let alone the main page?

let me repeat the applicable paragraphs:

Now how does this apply to bionicle, you ask? In 2090, the Matoran Universe was found. Centuries ago, Teridax, as Mata Nui, had lifted off Aqua Magna into space, and Pohtau used his Rohtoch to blast through the southern continent's dome. sadly, this meant that everything and everyone was sucked out of the MU, and killed in the vacuum of space. when the StarFleet archeology team came, they found that humans could use the Kanohi. In an attempt to create an army to drive off the IESA, StarFleet tried to use transporter tech to bring them back to life, but because of the half-matter half-energy of their DNA (Viruses) all atttempts ended in catastrophic explosions. But, before the project was scrapped, about two dozen toa had been created.

Now when Everything got sucked out of the MU, I mean everything. Including Terry's antidermis. It was frozen in the cold vaccumm of space, mut recently, My character has thawed him out. >:D (Funny to note, i'm a good guy. :P ) And also, a group of semi-reformed bounty hunters have decided to free Miserex!

How did this happen? Will they Meet? how 'bout Epic Battles? planets blowing up?

want to know the answers to these questions? (most are yes. :P ) come on over and sign up!

--Mtmerrick 17:57, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Logo Vote
Since it ended days ago, can someone qualified remove the notice saying we need to vote? <font color="Red" style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   15:41, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure. <font color="#0055FF">M <font color="#0cacff">ata <font color="#0055FF">N <font color="#0cacff">ui  15:45, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

NO SKIN
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WIKI?!?! (Botar22 sighs to release frightened feelings ... it fails to work and Botar22 runs in circles around the room ... that works and Botar22 comes back to the computer) There's no skin ... at all. It's all white and it looks scary =O <font color="Red" style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   20:55, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh... Are you sure you have the right choices in your preferences? I see nothing wrong. <font color="#0055FF">M <font color="#0cacff">ata <font color="#0055FF">N <font color="#0cacff">ui  21:05, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * I double-checked. It must be my server or just my computer. It's like there's no skin at all. All the pages are white and have no style. <font color="Red" style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   01:01, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

? I don't think anybody's changed anything and it looks the same to me. Do you have computers that have the same problem?


 * No, it's just this computer. I keep my login remembered so I don't have to type it in every time. It even stays logged in on Wookieepedia and other wikis like that. It might have been when I messed with the skins in there. <font color="Red" style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   13:31, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * YAY!!! I got it! No probs now! <font color="Red" style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:Black"><font color="Red" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   13:33, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Um...
'''Spoilers BIONICLE: The Legend Reborn are now allowed, without spoiler-tags. You have been warned.'''

Doesn't this sound strange? Why are people being warned about removing spoiler tags? Not to mention it could be re-worded.

BIONICLE: The Legend Reborn spoilers are now allowed without spoiler tags.

<font color="orange" style="Background:Black"><font color="orange" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:orange"><font color="black" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   00:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

People who come here may not want to see the spoilers. That's why it says "You have been warned". However, it's probably time to remove it soon. <font color="#0055FF">M <font color="#0cacff">ata <font color="#0055FF">N <font color="#0cacff">ui  15:08, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah ... Okay. <font color="orange" style="Background:Black"><font color="orange" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:orange"><font color="black" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   16:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Spelling
the last poll says, "Bionicle: For Glory For Honer For Power." It should be, "Bionicle: For Glory, For Honor, For Power." But it's usually said, "For victory, for glory, for power," but I don't know what the comics say. <font color="orange" style="Background:Black"><font color="orange" face="Monotype Corsiva">Botar <font style="Background:orange"><font color="black" face="Monotype Corsiva">22   16:59, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll look over it. <font color="#0055FF">M <font color="#0cacff">ata <font color="#0055FF">N <font color="#0cacff">ui  19:52, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Interlanguage links
You should add some more interlanguage links, you currently have only three as actual interlanguage links (in the "Languages" box) and five in the bottom of the welcome box.

Here's the code for all the links:

And the code for the welcome box text (you know, it's easier to use interlanguage links also for these instead of their interwiki counterparts):

Besides, the Russian one's a fanon wiki. You've linked it as a canon one. That's why I didn't include it in the above codes. <font face="monotype corsiva" color="goldenrod"> -VezonThunder  (keskustelu) 11:30, February 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. I have updated it. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 21:53, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

New Poll Please
The poll is getting really old. I've seen it like 100000000 times and I want to vote for something different!

<font size="4" face="Herculanum"> Bara Magna  (Bionicle Wiki Rollbacker) 21:39, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

I believe that it the job of Matoro1. You'll have to talk with him. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 21:50, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

GAH! EDIT CONFLICT! I just changed it. Sorry it was up for so lon. I origionally posted it a while ago but then I got a ton of complaints and I thouught it was a brand new poll when I was finished so I left it up.

New Bioniclepedia!
I make the czech bioniclepedia! See, and add to Other Languages in menu. Thanks!

--Nik 17:41, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

OK. I have added it to the main page. Thanks, http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 18:19, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

I was at that wikia before and there arent many articles so i wonder if it should be on the wikia yet because some people who talk czech maby want to know info about bionicle and cant find that much there yet. Just telling what i think ^^  Tesaras  leader  http://bionicle.wikia.com/wiki/The_BIONICLE_Wiki 18:22, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Feature
Don't you think we should have things on the main page like featured articles and images? It seems like a pretty good idea. ToaInfinity 17:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well we did do that but stopped when it became disused. Would you be willing to take responsibility over it if we start it again?

I would!

Tying Up Loose Ends
Hi Guys:

I've been gone for a very long time, but I remembered this wiki one day so I've decided to come back to tie up some loose ends. I'm resigning as whatever I am right now. I don't know if I'm chief admin anymore or what!

I just wanted to say that it was really fun to work on this wiki. When I found the original BIONICLE wikia, called Nuipedia, it was filled with false information. One example was it said that "Krekka was a Toa with Nidhiki". The former admin of Nuipedia was a guy named KFan II, who was banned from BionicleSector 01 for spreading false information. So in spite, he created his own wiki. Well, I found the wiki abandoned one day and asked Wikia for admin powers to it. I got them, and Nuipedia was no more.

Bioniclepedia was born.

KFan II would return one day. He saw himself as being ousted in a coup (he wasn't totally wrong, but it was a coup for the right reason.) He tried to ban me from "his" website, but Wikia staff informed him that as he had spread false information and abused the wiki, he was no longer in charge. He has not visited the wiki since.

Bioniclepedia grew and grew. I think at one point we had more articles than BS01. But I dissapeared as I had school, friends, and other stuff to do in meatspace. But now the Bionicle Wiki, no longer Bioniclepedia, is in a new generation of fans whom I am sure will do a great job of maintaining the website.

Part of me cannot believe that I am part of the reason for perhaps the largest Bionicle Wiki in the universe. But part of me also knows that I could not have made it without the help of other admins and editors like you all. So thank you. You know what, looking back, there is some irony. KFan II started Nuipedia and was ousted by me. Then Nuipedia became Bioniclepedia. Now I'm the one who is ousted and Bioniclepedia is The Bionicle Wiki.

So I'd like to thank all of you who read, edit, and manage Bioniclepedia/The Bionicle Wiki.

Farewell,

LegoLover AKA Tacku

User:Bold Clone
Right... I think this is the place to discuss this.

There are a few things I'd like to point out first.
 * This has become quite a big matter, and I therefor think it's only fair if every active member have a chance to say what they think about the matter, and we, the administrators, will look at what the community thinks before we make a final decision.
 * All of the administrators have equal authority right now, also meaning that I am equal to the other administrators right now.

So, many of us have witnessed the recent conflicts involving Bold Clone. My opinion is that things have gone too far.

Some references:
 * User talk:Bold Clone
 * Discussion between Bold Clone and Kazi22 on my talk page
 * User talk:Bold Clone
 * User_talk:Kazi22

I do agree on that he might have gone a little too far this time; accusing an administrator of being a vandal and/or liar is a serious thing, but I don't remember the rules stating anything about that. So I do think he is overusing these word a little. Sure, is is right, because in theory, the admins in question did vandalize, since they did, in the eyes of Bold Clone, lower the quality of the articles. But now we get the the topic of how we want the articles to be, which can wait.

The important thing is that no one wanted to hurt anyone or anything. What I think Bold Clone was trying to say is "X undid my improving edit to the Y-articles, thus reducing the quality of the article." ... "Now X says that I did Q, but that isn't true."

Also, I'd like to clarify what vandalism is. "Vandalism (using offensive language or being hostile in general, replacing or renaming pages, removing or rewriting pages with false information, etc.) is obviously prohibited on The BIONICLE Wiki. Minor vandalism, such as adding false information (it will be easy to tell if you are just misinformed, and if so you will not be punished), will result in a warning, and if necessary, point reduction. Major vandalism will result in an immediate 3-day block, and repeated offenses of minor or major vandalism will result in increasing magnitude of block time."

- The Site Rules

My opinion is that nothing should be considered vandalism unless the vandal intended to damage the article or the wiki as a whole. Regarding the liar thing, I think it's the same thing there, you don't lie if you say what you think is the truth.

Which means that yes, I think Bold Clone used a little strong words, but he's not exactly 'wrong' either.

To me, this all looks like the situation where everyone think that they did right, and the others did wrong.

Discussion
If I have to state my opinion on this, I'm still on Bold Clone's side, although I do think he will need to rethink when it comes to arguing with admins. Everyone still have the right to disagree and debate with an admin, but when an admin say "Stop", it does mean stop. You can always discuss it with another admin if the first one won't listen. And this applies even when you think the admin is hurting the wiki. You just have to realize that no matter how much you want to, you can't always make everything perfect. It's sad, but true.

But what do everyone else think about this?

Thanks, http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 13:39, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm remainind neutral. The above is very convinsing but I would also like to add that Bold Clone is an account used by the same user who has the Bobavett account/ BobaVett was recently blocked on TBW and I told you that he insulted me and Abc8920. The fact he's using his other account to argue with admins shows that he has started arguments with 3 admins, accusing them all of being 'liars'. (He also called me a 'hypercrit' and a 'rubbish site leader') The fact that this has involved him in all these situations implies he is generally targeting an argument. It's like he's trying to annoy us into looking bad then report us.


 * 1) Bold Clone is the first name he used here.
 * 2) He created his BobaVett and BobaVhett accounts on other Wikia wikis not knowing that he could use his Bold Clone account there too.
 * 3) I already knew that he and BobaVett/Vhett was the same person.
 * 4) I also knew that he was formerly an admin of BRW, and that there had been some kind of conflict there.
 * 5) I did not know that any of his other accounts have been blocked here at TBW. (I'll look that up, since I can't remember that)
 * 6) I did not know that he had insulted you or Abc8920.
 * 7) I do know that he has been blocked on BS01 because the staff members over there were tired of him and his general attitude.
 * 8) I am sure that you are wrong on "he is generally targeting an argument". I believe that he is simply misunderstood.

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HE's the vandal! He is lowering the quality of the mask articles, insulted most of the admins, BS01's blocking policies are normally disliked by me, but they had sense! BLOCK HIM!!!!! -- <font color="#fc0">B <font color="#fe0">ara <font color="#fc0">M <font color="#fe0">agna http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 16:30, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

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 * Did I ever say that anyone else was a vandal?
 * I can't see how he reduced the quality of the Kanohi pages. Can you give me an example?
 * Also, when an admin starts a flaming war (That's pretty much what you are doing), something is truly wrong.
 * I do not get mad at users normally, even if they put a swear on a page, I do not shout at them. BUT THIS GUY IS THE WORST USER I HAVE SEEN! I have seen how he keeps a list of "Mask Pages Left" and he is just taking away the balanced white background.

-- <font color="#fc0">B <font color="#fe0">ara <font color="#fc0">M <font color="#fe0">agna http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 16:39, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

You're not a very good member yourself when you yell like that.

Now, listen. I have to go out for some time now, and I don't want to see any more flaming when I come back. Neither do I want to see that anyone has increased BC's block. Other than that, I don't want to see any more insulting. Is that understood? Good.

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Yes Sir. The thing is that I have been tracking BC ever since he was blocked on the other site to me it is easy to just say hey you are wrong and here is why along with a link or something but I believe when you call a Admin a liar and Vandal you are going too far. We respect every single user here and to give respect you should at least recieve respect. I have looked up BC records here and on other sites and I must say this isn't his first offense. OMP He may just need some time off to review the rules and try to change how he respond to things. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk

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 * I understand what you mean, and I have also seen a lot of Bold Clone. But you must also have seen how incredible active he is, and how he will do whatever it takes to improve the wiki, although his idea of improving it might be a lot different from that of other people.
 * This is why I also think that BS01 made a big mistake by blocking him, instead of understanding how much he could help, if they could just understand him. He has many good idea, and when he has made up his mind, he won't let anyone or anything change that. Which is, maybe, the problem. He will not always accept that the staff is in charge.
 * Also, Bold Clone requested that he would be temporarily unblocked so he can at least defend himself. Do you think that would be a good idea?

Only on His talk page only. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk

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 * OK. I have already unlocked his talk page, actually.

Okay I understand but it is time he learns that staff members are in charge for a reason. He may have gotten away with it on other sites but that is not how we operate here. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk

OK. I have thought more about this:

Unblocking Bold Clone
"Vandalism: Told to leave site leader alone didn't listen calling admin a Liar. Learn to respect the rules and then come back until Then...."

- Kazi22, blocking Bold Clone


 * 1) It didn't bother me at all that you debated on my talk page. After all, I was asleep at the time.
 * Yes, he did say that Kazi22 was liar and vandal, but that normally isn't enough to get someone blocked.
 * 1) As far as I know, he didn't violate any rules, maybe except edit warring, but that would apply to Kazi22 too, I think.

My conclusion is that it is not motivated to keep BC blocked. And we shouldn't be discussing him without letting him defend himself. I know many of you will disagree with this, but my decision is to unblock him, at least temporary.

And I know that I shouldn't do this without getting an OK from you guys first, but Bold Clone do have a good point here - he did not deserve to get blocked.

I also know that this is quite hypocritical. I recently told Bara Magna that he did wrong when he increased BC's blocking time without asking anyone else first. I know this, and I've thought of it.

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BC neeeds to know he has to obey the rules of this wiki and not to disrespect those who enforce those rules. He disrespected Kazi22. Kazi22 didn't abuse his powers and showed respect toward BC. If BC can't show respect towards an admin here and cooperate with us then what should we do? Just block him? - Mazeka 369  BRW 19:24, June 3, 2010 (UTC) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 20:48, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which rule did he not obey?
 * Also, I think you might want to see this and this. There's no disrespecting. At all. It's a very good example of his good sides.


 * So...to summarize, I might have overreacted somewhat (for that I apologize, but have no regrets), everyone else overreacted, and I was right the entire time. Again, I apolgize for any inconvienence I might have caused. -- Bold  Clone  21:04, June 3, 2010 (UTC)