The BIONICLE Wiki talk:Wiki Jobs

So, I thought up a few that we don't have: somebody operating the News template (It seems kinda willy-nilly right now) and someone taking care of redlinks. The News one is a small responsibility, but the redlink one will be rather hefty (at least in the beginning). So, should we split them among some of the admins that don't have many responsibilities right now, or open voting for another admin (Who just may end up being Makao)? - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 23:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally think the jobs thing is getting out of hand, we have enough as it is. We don't really need a job for redlinks, that's just silly. It's like apointing someone to create pages for all the deadlinks, which is pointless because it gives editors something to do when they're bored. But I agree about the news thing. Auserv is our Chronicler, so it should be his job already. We have to include the community more, making more and more jobs is not going to help much. Especially when all those jobs can only be taken by admins. When I joined a year ago, editing was fun because I always found something to do, no one told me that I can't help out here, or edit this a little. Bioniclepedia is too admin exclusive right now, we make it look like you need to at least be a sysop before you can do anything. I think the focus of our attention should go back to monitoring for vandals, and more importently, edit anything that needs editing. Adding articles to the right catagories, keeping older ones looking like they belong in the Matoran universe, and making the new ones look like the Bara Magna junk for next year. If I were just a normal user right now, I would probably be having loads of fun adding older articles to the Matoran Universe catagory before 09 hits us. A template would help too, like one that says something like "The subject of this article does not involve the current Bionicle storyline." I am nearing my 3,000 edit pretty soon, I didn't get this far by following wiki jobs, I didn't even pay any attention to the Toa page upgrade we were doing back then. Legodude has over 4,000 contribs, I'm sure he was a hard worker back in the day. I have the second largest amount of contribs on this wiki, and I've only been here for 11 months. If we really focus on what we need to, Bioniclepedia will grow so fast we'll start using the welcome template the way we were this summer.


 * So that's my opinion. And I'm sorry Daiku, I didn't mean to make your idea sound stupid. It was a good one, I just don't think it's one we need at the moment. Panaka  lego  01:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Not at all - if it's actually a stupid idea, I don't want to be told otherwise in the name of niceness. However, I don't think it's a stupid idea - obviously, since if I thought so I wouldn't have suggested it. But I'm not just thinking of things that need to be done off the top of my head and slapping them down. It's either things that need Admin powers to do, require somebody with dedication and responsibility, or something that nobody wants to do. Mostly, I'm thinking of Special:Wantedpages when I mentioned the redlinks. We need to get that page under control. Sure, you can say "Oh, the normal users can take care of the redlinks," but look at that page and you'll see that it's rediculous. Most of them are just one or two links that can be easily removed, and there's plenty of errors - like Usertalk instead of User Talk. Now, I'm not saying that the admin responsibilities are exclusive. Some are, but that's the nature of the job. The redirects and the redlinks and such are things that have just been sitting there gathering dust. If you put in the next poll "How often do you check the Wanted Pages?" you'd get a lot of "Wait, where?" for your response. If a couple of us take to tackling the redlink page like we did the redirect pages, and had somebody check it every couple days or so to watch if any new ones show up, it'd keep the amount of redlinks down. Of course, normal users are allowed to fix redlinks when they see them, but it seems like we don't for the most part. Just like we don't watch double redirects for the most part. That's why we need to assign somebody to do it, even when it's not fun. Somebody we know we can trust to do it. Someone responsible.
 * And trying to patrol Recent Changes today, I've found that we've far from discouraged users from doing things. It's hard to keep up with. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 03:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we're understanding what we're both thinking now: We need to create the wantedpages, or erase any links to the typos, right? Right. XD


 * I was reacting to your making it another job, which can put a little too much weight on editing, I think creating a job like that is unnecessary, but it's an importent part of editing none-the-less. The word "job" can carry a lot of weight itself at times, and I reacted to the unintended weight. But I see your point, and the sitenotice and mainpage does wonders with getting the community to focus. Sometimes, anyway. I haven't seen any proper sources yet... Guess we should tell everyone how to source before it becomes necessary like this. =P Panaka  lego  03:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Another job proposal
I was thinking, do we need someone to be kinda like a director of operations? Y'know, sorta make sure admins are doing their jobs and doing them for the right reasons. Not like a Big Boss type of job, but someone responsible for keeping track of who's inactive, and what jobs aren't getting done. I'm not saying this job would be like a "I'm in charge" type of job either. Again, he'd just keep an eye on the day-by-day stuff, he might be manager of the jobs as a whole, too. Anyway. I just had an idea I thought I'd propose to you peoples. Panaka lego  07:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it sounds like a good idea, but I'm kinda reluctant to have a job like that, because even though you said it wouldn't be a Big Boss type of job, it could be interpreted that way. It just seems to me like it could cause problems considering that a few of our admins are younger and less mature, and would resent the idea of an "admin-hunter" out to take away their admin power of they don't do their job (well, not exactly, but it could be seen that way). And causing more drama between the admins is something that we definitely want to avoid. Still, if we do it right so no one feels threatened, it could work. (So basically in my trademark Auserv way of replying, I've stated my disapproval of something and then immediately go "but maybe it could be okay", and given you no answer at all XD) ToaAuserv ? ...BPAdmin 17:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

If we were to do something like this, we'd definitely need unanimous approval of whoever we pick, not just majority. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 17:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, our administrators are supposed to be mature and handle this stuff, aren't they? If they would resent that, then how are they mature enough to be admins in the first place? And majority-based voting is flawed on any wiki, since anyone can make an unlimited amount of dupes to vote for something (which has nothing to do with what we're talking about). So simply going with the majority maight have less-then-ideal results. Panaka  lego  22:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)