Talk:Elements

Were those official pics? If they are, I'd say they could stay. They looked pretty good... - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 23:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure with the confirmed Plagued Tribe element but I highly doubt there are 2 "Sand Tribes". Could someone please add a sitiation here.
 * Sorry, my mistake. It should be Iron. M ata N ui

Acid
What about Acid? Shouldn't it be here as well?

Fear  my   Power!!!


 * It's not a real element, just a power. M ata N ui  17:34, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Acid
Acid is an element. (BZP)


 * No, it's a power, but not an element. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 14:55, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Not according to official sources anyway. (BZP, Greg, etc)


 * How do you explain this? (Question 4) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 15:27, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

With this.

[quote][quote]Another thing: since you said you view the sentient acid cloud as an Elemental, does that mean that you consider Acid an Element?[/quote]For these purposes, yes, though I doubt it will ever be a Toa element.[/quote]It's common knowledge it's an element, but not a Toa element.

[quote]Acid is not an element, as there are no Toa, Turaga or Matoran of Acid. [/quote]Not having a Toa of it has zero bearing on the matter.

>>it seems quote tags dont work here.


 * OK, then. I added it under "Non-Toa Elements".
 * As for the Quote tags, it's because we a different coding-language. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 15:40, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry if I was annoying. Was googling them and came across as strange. ^^;;


 * No problem. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 15:59, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

New insight:

[QUOTE][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]I've been seeing conflicting comments on what Acid is. I have a quote stating it is an element, but not a Toa element.

[quote][quote]Another thing: since you said you view the sentient acid cloud as an Elemental, does that mean that you consider Acid an Element?[/quote]For these purposes, yes, though I doubt it will ever be a Toa element.[/quote]This makes me believe it is elemental, but an unorthodox one.

There is also:

[quote][quote]4.Why isn't acid an element? 4b.Or a Kanohi power?[/quote]4) Because LEGO says no.[/quote]A retraction?

The first quote is much older, and I'm not sure on the date. The second is from only a few days ago, but I suspect it was referring to Toa.

My question is: Is Acid still an element, but remains a non-toa one, or does it need to be completely removed from the list of Elements?

[/quote]

It has to be, because we had Bohrok use that power, but it not a Toa element.[/quote]So full retraction from elemental power to just a regular power?[/quote]

It's a Bohrok element, it's not a Toa element.[/quote]I see, thank you. If it can be just a Bohrok Element, but not one like the others of course, what about Vacuum in this list as well?[/quote]

My concern, frankly, is with the use of the word "element" for either one, because people associate "element" with Toa. So it might be wise to come up with a different word to describe things that are Bohrok elements but are not elements in the classically accepted sense of the word.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah the tags >< Idk how to format it better :(


 * Interesting...
 * About formating, I'll give it a try:
 * "Me":"I've been seeing conflicting comments on what Acid is. I have a quote stating it is an element, but not a Toa element.


 * "Another thing: since you said you view the sentient acid cloud as an Elemental, does that mean that you consider Acid an Element?" "For these purposes, yes, though I doubt it will ever be a Toa element."

- Another BZPower Member and Greg


 * This makes me believe it is elemental, but an unorthodox one.


 * There is also:


 * "4.Why isn't acid an element? 4b.Or a Kanohi power?" "4) Because LEGO says no."

- Another BZPower Member and Greg


 * A retraction?


 * The first quote is much older, and I'm not sure on the date. The second is from only a few days ago, but I suspect it was referring to Toa. 


 * My question is: Is Acid still an element, but remains a non-toa one, or does it need to be completely removed from the list of Elements?"


 * Greg: "It has to be, because we had Bohrok use that power, but it not a Toa element."


 * "Me": "So full retraction from elemental power to just a regular power?"


 * Greg: "It's a Bohrok element, it's not a Toa element."


 * "Me": "I see, thank you. If it can be just a Bohrok Element, but not one like the others of course, what about Vacuum in this list as well?"


 * Greg: "My concern, frankly, is with the use of the word "element" for either one, because people associate "element" with Toa. So it might be wise to come up with a different word to describe things that are Bohrok elements but are not elements in the classically accepted sense of the word."


 * What about that? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 19:53, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * O Have you guys seen the new update? Creation is a legendary element.

Where does it say that???-- Yoshi Island  19:08, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * In the OGD. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 23:37, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. -- Yoshi Island  00:09, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

shadow prefix?
I�think that somewhere I read that the Av-matoran called the Shadow Matoran "Kra-Matoran" (like kraata). It was an official source. 67.240.252.4 16:58, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

You will have to find the source and tell it to us before we can put it down. --


 * Sorry, but no. It must have been a misunderstanding. Shadow Matoran were never referred to as "Kra-Matoeran", or at least not to my knowledge. But of course, I could be wrong. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 11:37, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Could Kra-Matoran have been a prototype name for Shadow Matoran in 2008?-- Mazeka 369  Cool! 17:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I'd doubt it. --

Greg called them 'Shadow Matoran' for every single book in 2008. If he's going to change it now then he will only make himself look bad.