User talk:Bold Clone

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Those Ignika and Vahi edits are not neccasary. Please don't change them Again.

 Bara  Magna  http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 19:30, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Help me, Mata Nui
Mata Nui, I think this is the only place that I can edit, so I'll speak here: Bara Maga recently vandalized some pages, and than banned me for 3 days when I asked him about the situation. Could you unban me?-- Bold  Clone  22:00, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

VANDALIZE?? Usually, I do not get mad like this, but You just made the Ignika page look bad. Not to mention the Vahi! It is called rollbacking.

 Bara  Magna  http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 22:04, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Liar. Usually, I do not get mad like this, but you just say that I am damaging the quality of this wiki. Prove that I made the Vahi and Ignika page bad, please. -- Bold  Clone  22:10, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Misunderstandings this time? Oh well. I think that Bold Clone didn't mean to, but if he did then I would see why he would be blocked. I believe that he was just trying to help. I say that Bold Clone shoudn't be block unless he intentionally meant to. - Mazeka 369  BRW 22:45, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Mazeka369. I now understand why BM accused me of damaging the wiki: in my edits, a word was deleted. This is a glitch in my computer's OS, and I have not been able to remove the problem for over 3 years. I apolgize if it seems like vandalism, but I am only trying to improve the wiki. -- Bold  Clone  22:53, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I overreacted, but it was yellow instead of gold. I'll unblock.
 *  Bara  Magna  http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 23:17, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 *  Bara  Magna  http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 23:17, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

I already unblocked Bold Clone. - Mazeka 369  BRW 18:36, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but accusing a staff member of vandalism is not to be taken lightly. Neither is Liar. -- B ara M agna http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 23:05, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Every member of The BIONICLE Wiki is expected to show respect to any and all administrators. You have already disrespected an Adminstrator and that will result in a one-day block for you and plus you started an edit war with an administrator which will result in serious punishment. Also if you cause any more harm to the wiki your block will be increased because I am sure that you now know not to do it. - Mazeka 369  BRW 00:34, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Vandalism is removing true/relevant info or adding false info. Granted, most of my editing on the pages were minor stuff, so reverting them wasn't that big of a deal, but in the reverts, he added back in the info that Mata Nui wore the Ignika. That is blatantly false, and I assumed that that was why he reverted the edits. -- Bold  Clone  00:46, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

True but you should of have stopped editing those pages when Bara Magna rollbacked the current edits of those pages. Those edits you did were pointless ones and I can see why Bara Magna changed those pages so. Mata Nui wore the Ignika and that is true, not false. Making a big deal about something like that is pointless. - Mazeka 369  BRW 01:10, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

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 * @Mazeka369: ("Every member of The BIONICLE Wiki is expected to show respect to any and all administrators....") True, but every administrator is expected to show respect to every user. That, and BC has been a registered user here for longer than Bara Magna has, and he is, in my opinion, one of our more trusted users.
 * And arguing with an administrator may be (almost) forbidden at BS01, but it isn't here.
 * And I've seen much enough of BC on both BS01 and here to know that he is worth respect and patience. He may seem a little stubborn sometimes, but in the end, his only intentions are to improve the wiki, in which he mostly succeeds.
 * And forgive me, Bold Clone, for talking about you like this on your own talk page, but this is where the discussion took place, and I am/was talking to the other admins.
 * Thanks,
 * No problem, MN.
 * @Mazeka: In addition to what MN said, don't forget that I'm an older member than you and have made more edits than you...I know what I am doing--always. The one thought on my mind here is to improve the wiki, and anyone who reverts my edits are removing improvments to the wiki--in princple tantamount to vandalism. However, I would like to simply let MN judge the case and decide on any further punishment. -- Bold  Clone  16:01, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would prefer not to give any punishment at all right now (Considering that you even accused me of vandalism at some point - though that was before you knew I was an admin), but I can't overrun a decision made by Mazeka369 or Bara Magna, unless I find it straight out stupid. So my opinion is that Mazeka369 or Bara Magna should judge on this, but my advice would be to forget it.
 * OK...that makes sense. :) -- Bold  Clone  17:26, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that's all I can do for now. Although I am the site leader, and that means (If I remember correctly) that I have the final say in everything, it doesn't mean that I have to use that right, because I'd like to see myself as (almost) equal to the other admins. But I do hope that this can end in a good way.

It doesn't matter who has been here the longest or has the most edits or who thinks incests are going to take over the world (sorry, got off subject there), but what matters is the question of what if the choices made based on the acts done aren't exactly the way they should be. Bara Magna overreated and in response of Bold Clone he accused and insulted him. I could see why that isn't Bold Clone's fault. In my perspective mistakes have been made. You shouldn't be blocked at all, though try not to be as stubborn when a situation like this is at hand. It makes a bad impression. How about we forget all about this and act like it never happened, because if you look you can see it's just one misunderstanding leading to this. Sorry on my behalf. - Mazeka 369  BRW 19:03, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok...so am I unblocked? -- Bold  Clone  19:05, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reply
Fi means Finnish language. And that's the interwiki code. Olisi is the interwiki link to article 'Olisi' in Finnish Bionicle Wiki. --DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 17:49, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Help me, Mata nui again
I could really use your help right now; Kazi22 has taken it upon himself to ban me for a week for asking for your help in regards to Kazi22 abusing his powers and vandalzing. Thanks. -- Bold  Clone  23:12, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is the entire conversation Kazi22 banned me for a week over:

I am reporting wiki admin Kazi22 as vandalizing and abusing his Sysop powers. He has repeatedly readded the blatantly false info of Mata Nui wearing the Ignika (MN was only a body created by the mask), protected the page to keep me from removing the false info, and has refused to discuss the info in detail. That said, I am also requesting that you unprotect the Ignika page so that I can do my duty to this wiki and continue to improve the Ignika page. Thank you. -- Bold  Clone  22:20, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

And on that note Bold Clone is trying to restate an issue that has been taking care of back in the past a while back. He is adding false info not trying to remove it plus I am somewhere else looking at Bold Clone's record and it isn't pretty my friend. I believe he is trying to vandalize so I am prepared to step in. Cheers, Kazitan ----- Talk
 * Liar. I am not adding false info or vandalzing; you are, Kazi22. MN was only a spirit in a mask on a body created by the mask--he wasn't actually wearing the mask. Disprove that, please. -- Bold  Clone  22:30, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

See that MN. Not once have I called BC a liar or anything of the sort I believe he is trolling now. Cheers, Kazitan ----- Talk
 * Hey. HEY. Can you prove that you are not an liar? If not...then I'm not trolling. -- Bold  Clone  22:42, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Typical Troll's response. Cheers, Kazitan ----- Talk
 * Yeah, and while you try to slander me, may I point out how you make no defense for your inappropriate actions and try to keep the focus on me? Typical troubledoer's response. -- Bold  Clone  22:46, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok while if you are going to waste time and space trying to find the evil in everyone do it off of Mata Nui's Talkpage. That is Disrespectful. Cheers, Kazitan ----- Talk
 * I am only doing my duty to the wiki in reporting an improper action by a Sysop. This is the only place to go to for justice. Besides, can you defend your actions? I sure can...-- Bold  Clone  22:56, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Note how Kazi22 ultimately avoided answering the accusations...-- Bold  Clone  23:16, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Accusing a staff member of vandalism is not to be taken lightly. Neither is Liar. Read Very Carefully please. Thank You. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk
 * HEY. IF you can defend yourself against every accusation I made, then you shouldn't have a problem with this. However, you have ignored every challenge I made and then took it into your hands to shut me up...Hmm...-- Bold  Clone  23:20, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

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 * I'll be taking this to the Discussion Page of the Main Page, since this is really a matter between several member. My post should be done soon. And I know you're currently blocked, BC, but you might still want to know what happening.

Main Talkpage Reply
@Matoro1: Liar. I did not call you a 'rubbish site leader'. And I called you a hypocrite because you are a hypocrite. You, a BRW Sysop, refused to perform your duty as a Sysop and punish ABC, who was blantantly abusing his powers against me.

If by 'generally targeting an argument', you mean I try to correct false info and stand up to the corrupt officials who refuse to see the reasoning behind me, then yes, I do that.

I would also like to get back to the point of the entire argument (Kazi22's corrupt actions can be dealt with later): the fact that Mata Nui did not ever, in any way, shape or form, wear the Ignika. If someone can offer me a shred of proof that I am wrong, then I am willing to listen to them. However, if nobody can proof that Mata Nui wore the Ignika, then I was completely justified in everything I said to Kazi22 and would like to be unblocked. -- Bold  Clone  16:33, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Remember what I said on the discussion page of the Main Page... It would be good if you avoided calling admins liars, or anything else that might insult them, even if that is what you think of them. They are doing what they think is right, and they deserve some respect, just like you deserve some respect for trying so hard to improve this wiki. The problem is that you have different opinions on how to do this than many other people. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 17:02, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re:False Info
That page has already been redeleted by Bara Magna. Though thank you for telling me. - Mazeka 369  BRW 18:53, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Ignika
I don't see how changing an infobox color is wrong........

<font color="#fc0">B <font color="#fe0">ara <font color="#fc0">M <font color="#fe0">agna http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 23:05, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * You are rollbacking every edit I have done, stripping 4,538 bytes of info off the page. Besides, it should be silver to represent the Ignika in 2008, when it turned silver. -- Bold  Clone  23:06, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. 4,538 bytes??? Where'dja get that???
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http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 23:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * headdesk* Try looking at the Recent Changes for once, please. XD -- Bold  Clone  23:10, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Mask of Creation
I did not rollback it, but in our policies it states a page must be protected if an edit war starts. Sorry, I didn't make Wikia policies. Don't be mad at me. I did what was right. -- <font color="#fc0">B <font color="#fe0">ara <font color="#fc0">M <font color="#fe0">agna http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 23:12, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know; I just wanted to know why you were making the edits in the first place. -- Bold  Clone  23:14, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blog
Look at my blog and comment on the first one on the top.

<font color="#fc0">B <font color="#fe0">ara <font color="#fc0">M <font color="#fe0">agna http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (Bionicle Wiki Admin) 23:18, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Powers
Why did you remove all of the BM Elements except sand? The section is for elements on Bara Magna (Actually, it should be Spherus Magna), which includes Jungle, Fire, Ice, Water, Rock and Iron. (Although I did forget Iron).

Can you explain? Thanks, http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 09:31, June 16, 2010 (UTC) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 19:23, June 16, 2010 (UTC) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 11:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 18:47, June 17, 2010 (UTC) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 21:52, June 17, 2010 (UTC) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/8/85/Mata_Nui_Signature1.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/bionicle/images/a/aa/Mata_Nui_Signature2.png 10:01, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * ...they are dupes. We aready have a Fire link, we don't need a second one. The only one we need is Sand. Anything thing else is taking up space and detrimental. Just my reasoning. -- Bold  Clone  18:25, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, but the section isn't for "BM-exclusive elements", but for "Elements which existed on BM". With your reasoning, we could place the BM section first, and remove the dupes from the MU elements, right? My opinion is that we keep the dupes.
 * ...But the MU came first in the story, so we would keep those...-- Bold  Clone  00:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh, I'd put "Elements on BM and MU" then different sections for the exclucives. Toa  11  00:09, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * But don't you think the former way (My way) is easier to understand if you come here looking for information about elements?
 * It kinda makes sense... Toa  11  18:23, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait, what makes sense?
 * @MN:...no...that just makes it a bit more confusing and very much redundant, IMO. -- Bold  Clone  21:38, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess that is a matter of opinion, not facts. But I believe (That is, I have no idea, but this is what I think seems most likely) that most people would agree with me.
 * Another way to solve this is to remove BM from that template, and rearrange it completely.
 * Well, I like the idea of rearranging the template completely. -- Bold  Clone  23:13, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's go to the Sandbox, then. =P
 * What about this:

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 * I think that would work, but what do the other Sysops think of it? -- Bold  Clone  20:19, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fine. -- <font color="#fc0">B <font color="#fe0">ara <font color="#fc0">M <font color="#fe0">agna http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif (TBW Admin) 20:24, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

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 * Well, the Sysops are in charge, so you've got the final decsion. -- Bold  Clone  20:36, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fine, then.