User:Pirakafreak24/TalkArchive2

Wow, you've done a great job on Comic 12.5, really, a great job.-|M|ata |N|ui 20:22, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and by the way, welcome back!-|M|ata |N|ui 13:25, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Response
Okay, here's my response. Looking at your messages, it seems like we need to make a distinction between whether or not we UTILIZE a rating system, and whether we use the CURRENT rating system. They both seem to be interspersed together, and you're using facts that show why the CURRENT ratng system doesn't work to say that we should get rid of a rating system ALTOGETHER. If we separate these two issues, I think you'll find that most of your problems are with the SYSTEM we're currently using, not the CONCEPT of a rating system. And I wholeheartedly agree that the current system needs to be fixed - I'm working on a new one that deals with all of those problems. Your input is being heard.

Also, I think you're severely overestimating the amount of activity Bioniclepedia gets. We're pretty fair-sized on average, but we're far from a super-wiki like Wikipedia or Wookiepedia, just to name a few. Yesterday, we had 11 users make edits. Not 20-40. Eleven. And not all of those are active, prominent users. Whenever we have a community vote, we never get more than twenty people voting. And while there may be more people coming and editing than that, they're not playing a huge role in the community. Now, if the operator's job is to check EVERY user and see if they specifically deserve a point rating, you're right: there's no way our staff could handle that. But there are other types of systems that would take less work. Using my several years of experience here at BP, I think I have a fair handle on the traffic here, and I think I've got an idea that would allow one person to EASILY run the rating system.

As for your statement that the admins will eventually get bored and forget it, I find that a bit insulting. Yes, it's a general rule that admins will lose interest and move on. You could probably even make a case that EVERYBODY is lazy and loses interest in some cases. But to take a general rule and to say it MUST apply in EVERY situation is a fallacy. Yes, we've had two people who haven't done much for the rating system. That doesn't mean the third person will be the same. I have a job - and it isn't just a job for extra money, I need this job to live. I don't have the ability to live off of my parents. I have to be committed to this job; It's important. When you have to work, you learn responsibility. A year or two ago, I'd probably have been long gone from BP. I don't follow Bionicle as much as I used to, and there's other stuff I'd much enjoy doing. But when I became an admin, and then a bureaucrat, I made a commitment to this wiki. I take that commitment just as seriously as I take my job. It manifests itself in different ways, but I'm here as long as is reasonably possible. I try to keep up with Bionicle so I can better do my job here. I can't speak for the other admins, but when I say I'm going to run the rating system, I mean I'm going to. I'm not dropping it. And with the system I've working on, I should be the only one that needs to.

And if I may ask, why are you so adamantly against the rating system? You said that if the rating system would go away, you'd feel much better. You're going around to people's talkpages, and writing thousands of words against it. Yet you say that nobody cares about their rating anyways, and you complain that the current operater isn't doing anything with it. If it's not wasting anybody's time and nobody cares about it anyways, what's your beef? I'm just trying to better understand your position.

Let Round Three begin. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 19:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems that most your reasons are ToaAuserv... Auserv was going inactive beforehand. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 23:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

...Yet again, all of these reasons come down to the METHOD we're using, not the basic principle behind a rating system. I agree - Auserv didn't live up to his promises, and the rating system was somewhat flawed. That's because our previous votes established that there would BE a rating system, but now HOW it would work. We left that up to whoever was going to run it, and they got to just make stuff up. I'll be submitting this one I'm working on to peer review BEFORE we vote on whether or not to keep it. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 23:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I(andrew1219) don't like the rating system because its to complicated.
 * I fail to understand what's so complicated about it. And I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to vote against the whole thing... -- Panaka lego  01:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I(andrew1219) think its to hard to go up because editing 50 pages is hard.!
 * Actually, it is quite easy. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 01:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I took so long to answer, I've been recovering from flu. I'm sorry to hear that.

Template:Spoiler
You have to add something to MediaWiki:Common.css. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:31, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
Congrats, Pirakafreak! You're now Bioniclepedia's newest Matoran Guard! Don't let me down, ok? Panaka lego  21:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

When viewing an article's edit history, there will be a "Rollback" button at the top. This will undo that edit, and any edits immediatly before by the same user, so it's easy to "roll back" vandalism. It makes it easier to keep a vandal or spammer of making a major mess of the wiki. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 22:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but that wasn't quite importent enough to make the news. But as long as you keep a watch on Recent Changes, you'll do a good job. ;) Panaka  lego  22:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

My System Proposal
Draft One is up for peer review. Check it out, and tell me what you think. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 00:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

How?
I do not understand how you became a Matoran Guard, or Rollbacker. That was the shortest voting period ever. Only two people voted, and one of them was you. Owning 70-80 Bionicle sets does not show your true skills as an editor. I recall you spammed my userpage and the wiki back in June with bolding the word "stickers" in pages you deemed appropriate for that word. That was totally unnecessary. It is ironic that you obtained Rollbackership. Even if you changed from that period to this time period, I believe it is too early for you to have it. And you do not need to go tell people that you are a Rollbacker. Some might call that arrogance. Some might think that it is narcisstic of you to do that. Can someone clear this up with me on how you got Rollbackship? I want a revote. Racht 06:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Because Rollback abilities have nothing that can be abused, and there's not much in them more than normal usership than the rollback button, so we haven't been to strict on who gets them, like we would with Adminship. Besides, if you think it's so rediculous, why didn't you vote? It was up for at least several days. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 18:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Daiku, based on the voting period I have seen so far on this site, it has been for two weeks or so. When people voted for me, it took more than several days. I have not had the time these past few days to vote. Racht  22:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough - still, Rollbacker isn't a big deal. People have gotten it with less support. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 22:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Too much homework
Sorry I haven't been on lately. I still have a ton of homework to do. -- <font color="Green">Rollbacker at Bioniclepedia (PF24) ( <font color="Orange">TALK ) <font color="Purple">I'm going to go see High School Musical 3 soon!! Senior Year!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope it will not be a big deal. Racht  22:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Rollbaking isnt a big deal anyway. Sysopship is the thing we gotta be very picky on. Rollbacking is just a quicker way to revert an edit.Legodude760 Although that vote did seem rushed.

Do we realy have to make a big deal out of it? Come on guys! I was fairly voted and that's that. -- <font color="Green">Rollbacker at Bioniclepedia (PF24) ( <font color="Orange">TALK ) <font color="Purple">I'm going to go see High School Musical 3 soon!! Senior Year!!!!!!!!!!!!! 02:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

WAY too much homework
Ok, sorry I haven't been on again, but I've had alot of Homework and Last Nigh I saw High School Musical 3 Senior Year and it ROCKED!!!!!-- <font color="Green">Rollbacker at Bioniclepedia (PF24) ( <font color="Orange">TALK ) <font color="Purple">I'm going to go see High School Musical 3 soon!! Senior Year!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

A lot of people contact Greg on BZP, he has an account on there and BS01, but he only made one edit on BS01 before he mysteriously left.

His account on BZP, like it is on all places, is GregF.

I can't create a BZP account for some reason, so you should ask PL.

Hmmm......I don't know..... but if he isn't you could raise awareness.

Yeah, but if you're going to send me a message after now please do so on Custom Bionicle wiki. Switching wikis to answer messages is annoying.

The admins'l tell me when it's time to archive.

Well, you had a good reason to want to archive your talkpage, I don't really have any reason to archive mine. It's not yet reach the limit, or at least I think....

33 MB or something like that, but I'm sure I got the unit of measurement wrong.

I live in the UK, so I'm in another time-zone for one thing. Also, my school is closed this week for Autumn holidays.

Of course you are! Any user who has been a member more than a few days can. So there is no reason why not. And when did I say you were prejudiced against the UK?

Thnx!

Oh. Unless you count the weather the UK isn't a horrible place to live, but that's North-East England 4 ya.

It's not that the weather's unpredictable, it's just that it rains a lot.

There's no lightning here, and it's likely someone would freak if they saw the sun in the sky ;).

Oh, I'm a goin' to play Inika Island Assault now. I love it how it's so challenging. Do you play Inika Island Assault? If you do play it, how far did you get? I got up to the part where you smash Avak and his Zamor cannon. The Zamor cannon nearly killed me, and Avak did. If you play I also have a tip for you, but I'll tell you later.

Hi, PF. I'm just starting this conversation because I have nothing else to do.

I'll ask the admins in a minute. Have you played Matoran Escape before? It's not really as difficult as I.I.A., but it is pretty difficult.

You should use the cheat I am about to tell you: While the menu is loaded, press the space bar and a level select option should come up. And I can tell you one thing, Inika island Assault is much harder.

You're welcome. Also, if the Piraka keep killing you, press the spaace bar repeatedly for invulnerability. You will not, however, be invulnerable to having your Zamors taken or falling.

Oops....misread you're message....soz....

BTW, You can call me Jack. Also, I've got good news: at my school I was elected class president, some girl named Chelsea was made my vice, and I know exactly why I was elected: I'm am easily the funniest person in my class. I've got more friends than I need.

Hey, I live in the UK, we don't celebrate Thanksgiving here. Also, due to complications about going to the C.I.s during Christmas, I'm getting my three presents from my grandparents and my auntie's present on 6 December. The presents are: Mutran and Vican, Mazeka, Umbra and Piruk.

Because I saw my grandparents ordering their presents for me on Amazon and today I saw Mutran, Vican and Piruk. Umbra just hasn't arrived. I know my auntie will get me Mazeka, as a christian, she believes in making people happy etc. She got me Karzahni last year when I asked her to, so I don't think this year will be any different.

I'm not guessing. I know because I asked for those ones. I helped my grandparents find the right ones on amazon and my grandma let me look at the boxes. Shje told me Piruk hasn't arrived. I'm not being sneeky looking for them like I did at my house last Christmas when I accidentaly found Icarax in my parents' bedroom, at a time when their were only six of him in the world.

Podcast
Ok, what would you like for a logo? And I dont have iTunes, so... but, where is a link on the page so others can see them? There should be links to download them on each section for an episode. <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> Ld760 <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> O HAI
 * I have no idea how to make a downloading link, but we can link to each episode on mypodcast.com, which I'm surprised I never did before. BTW: I really need to write the script for the next episode... That is, if I get to it before Auserv does. *evil laughter* Panaka  lego  02:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I found the pocast by clicking the lionk on your userpage. <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> Ld760 <font style="font-family:comic sans ms;"> O HAI

I really do not see the point of your petition against rating. It makes this wiki unique, so why would you want to get rid of the rating system? What's wrong with it?

That doesn't mean it needs to be removed from the wiki, and you can put it back to 0 yourself. All we need is an admin who can be bothered to run the system.
 * If you will excuse me for getting in on this conversation, User:Daiku/Rating System. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 19:50, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW: Could you change the color of Talk in your signature. I can't see it (unless it is supposed to be that way). The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs/Logs} 21:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome mi amigo. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk

To be honest I wish I knew. <font color="Purple" style="background:Black">Kazi Taylor -----<font color="Purple" style="background:Black"> Why would I was dishes before putting them into the dishwasher?

Thanks. <font color="Purple" style="background:Black">Kazi Taylor -----<font color="Purple" style="background:Black"> Why would I was dishes before putting them into the dishwasher?

To be honest, I don't sorry. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk

Do you want to become one of my Review Staff for my reviews? Ask questions about what the job involves on my user talk page.

Just making reviews of sets I haven't got or when I'm unavailable (eg: on holiday, dead, or in hospital). Are you gonna take the job?

Which 08 sets do you have? The only ones I haven't got are the Jetrax T6 and Rockoh T3. If you want to review them until I find my camera, upload the images, follow the link I sent you a few messages ago, and get to it. Daiku hasn't replied on whether he wants be one of my Review Staff.

Well, as you know, I'm getting Mutran and Vican. I have Lewa Nuva, he was the last Phantoka I needed to geet. But, since my camera is nowhere in sight, you can review them and read the talk page, of the review page for a demonstration of what will become the ordinary way to make a review. You will, of course, need to upload the images first.

BTW, Merry Christmas. I got a birthday present from this wiki (rollbackership, though I know that's not a real word) and I'm getting a Christmas present from it too (adminship). And don't worry, I see more admins will be demoted in the not too far future, and you will be a prime candidate to replace them, but you have been here for a pretty short time, I confess, but another month or two on this wiki, and I'd say you're ready for adminship. Hey is it You that signed up User new and put down @pf if so search for User news and I assign you as freelancer you can edit anything from 2001-200? when ever it ends I edit the stuff in 2009Master of mind 23:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)What I mean is You will post articles for any year for the new s network its a newspaper for Bionicle search for User NewsMaster of mind 23:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you an admin here?Skrall1118 02:28, 3 December 2008 (UTC) Go for adminMaster of mind 23:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that template, I really appreciate it. Toa Tahkeh { Talk here! } 04:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I know cool huh? <font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal">Lil Kazi -----<font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal"> My Dougie 14 December 2008

Ya pretty neat. <font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal">Lil Kazi -----<font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal"> My Dougie 14 December 2008

Done. <font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal">Lil Kazi -----<font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal"> My Dougie 14 December 2008

That makes the two of us getting free food. <font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal">Lil Kazi -----<font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal"> My Dougie 14 December 2008

At Sonic Burger and as a Tutor I get paid $10 an hour and at the Hotel I get paid $9 dollars an hour. <font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal">Lil Kazi -----<font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal"> My Dougie 14 December 2008

Cool I just eat pretty much whatever. <font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal">Lil Kazi -----<font color="Yellow" style="background:Teal"> My Dougie 14 December 2008

Hey there PF! I'm editing from Fuerteventura!!! I won't be back till the 27th and thanks to my lil' bro I know my mother's got me the Toa Undersea Attack playset for Xmas. Happy Holidays! -Toa Makao
 * Thanks for the vote dudeThe one and only Toa of Mind 16:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

New section
There needs to be a new section here. The last one is hecka long!-- <font color="Green">Pirakafreak24 ( <font color="Yellow">Talk ) <font color="Red">Happy Holidays! 18:46, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Wait until a different admin leaves the wiki. You will be a likely candidate to replace that admin.

Sorry
is it OK if I erase them.{And do you mean from adding images.}FRANKLIN 3000 04:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC) On my toa page or on the uploaded files because i erased pictures on my toa page.FRANKLIN 3000 04:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Ok so I put that on caption.FRANKLIN 3000 19:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Must.....get........Vorox......Army. That's what I'm gonna do in 09. I'm gonna build up a pack of Vorox (maybe a few Zesk too) to attack the army of Skrall my lil' bro's getting. I'm not getting any others until I have my army.

You haven't heard of Vorox?!?!?!?!? After all this time? I'm just getting an army of him. This link might help.

I'm always on the lookout for new info. That's why the early giving of names and even pictures of the summer 2009 Bionicles on the internet overjoyed me. And the new 2009 comic, Sands of Bara Magna, I must read it. Also, the world already knows about the Glatorian because they're on S@H. Happy New Year!

You there sick man go to bed you are not feeling well and you need your rest. <font color="Black" style="background:White">That's Dr. Kazi to you!! -----<font color="Black" style="background:White"> Objection! 30 December 2008

Good. I remember being sick and let me tell you it is no fun. Wait? Being sick is never fun. <font color="Black" style="background:White">That's Dr. Kazi to you!! -----<font color="Black" style="background:White"> Objection! 30 December 2008

No! Not Root Beer! <font color="Black" style="background:White">That's Dr. Kazi to you!! -----<font color="Black" style="background:White"> Objection! 30 December 2008

Blog
Well if you can t comment..

"If you can't leave a comment"
For no apparent reason my computer refuses to let me save a comment.

HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM ENGLAND! IT'S 12:06!

to talk to GregF ask Daiku if He not to crankyThe one and only Toa of Mind 13:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about, Master of Mind? Daiku has nothing to do with this, I don't think he even hangs out on BZP too much anymore. Auserv, on the hand, is fairly active. Panaka  lego  (BP Ad min) 17:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What are you guys even talking about? I'm missing something here.-- <font color="Yellow">Boltfan24 ( <font color="Yellow">Talk ) <font color="Yellow">I'm going to go see BOLT This week! 17:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I know I'm missing something, I thought Master of Mind was responding to something you said, PF. LOL. Panaka  lego  (BP Ad min) 23:16, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know what I'm missing. The last this I said to him was "You deserve it". That was when I voted for him and he said thanks. It makes no sense.-- <font color="Yellow">Boltfan24 ( <font color="Yellow">Talk ) <font color="Yellow">I'm going to go see BOLT This week! 23:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Why did U make a sockpuppetThe one and only Toa of Mind 23:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC) DC wikia24The one and only Toa of Mind 23:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC) If not U someone else uses 24The one and only Toa of Mind 23:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Rating System Essay
Hey PF, that essay against the Rating System you wrote a few months ago gives new users the idea that they can deny putting a rating template on their userpage. It says in our rules that a rating template is necessary on all userpages. Do I have your permission to delete your essay? Panaka lego  (BP Ad min) 03:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

The chief
Who is the chief administrator of here?--Toa D. 02:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * We're having an election for that now (Link).
 * @ PF: I guess we can leave the essay there, for now. As long as it doesn't cause anymore problems.


 * BTW: Your sig looks a lot like mine, it might confuse some people into thinking you're me and vice versa. Can you change it please? Panaka  lego  (BP Ad min) 05:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I need a manager to improve the logo on my Wiki (es.wiki bionicle). Can you help me? --Toa D. 01:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, who's really good with images here... Hammerise, maybe? He isn't an admin here, but he should be able to help you out. Panaka  lego  (BP Ad min) 06:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! You're talking to him. Oh!--<font color="Green">Pirakafreak <font color="Silver">24 DCWIKI 20:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

InikaFreak
Oh I knew that he wasn't you because I know that you won't vandalize this wiki or anything like that. I am not surprise with the cussing though because I deal with it also and let me tell you it isn't easy. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk

Sell some of your least favorite ones and see if she changes her mind. If not, I have no more advice to give other than begging/buying some yourself.

Pirakafreak,

After seeing your last comment on Toa Makao's page I must say that I really feel for you. I have no father or siblings and even though I am 19 I treat my Bionicles like living things. At times I even talk to them. With my mom being in the army it is a constant move. What I amtrying to Say is that I am here for you. <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">Captain Kazi -----<font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Talk

My friend has an obsession-related disorder, which is why he can sometime be unwilling to trade with me, even for very good deals. I offered hims 4 Kopaka wings, a few Bordakh staves and a Midak skyblaster for Gali's Nynrah Ghotblaster complete with aiming device. He refused! I'm still asking myelf why. I myself have a very minor mental disorder. It's for this reason I'm being bullied right now. Just an hour ago I was headbutted twice by a 15 year old psycho. It hurts to chew, but I'm otherwise fine. P.S. I'm sorry if any S's are missing from my message, my S button doesn't work all the time.

OK.

Yayorz! I still can't believe I got my firt 2009 set today. Find out who here.

Rating Drop
I dropped your rating, and here's why:

There's a reason several of us said not to write on vandal's talkpages. They really don't care about how people feel - they understand exactly what they're doing. They're just looking for any attention they can get, and you gave it to him. If we ignore Akutam, eventually he'll go somewhere else to get more attention, just like all the others have.

On the bright side, you've only got 5 more edits left until you get a rating boost. - Daiku { Whine Here } { Look what I did! } 22:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

glatorian
What is your fav glatorian Master Gresh 22:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

strakk and mines gresh and: I think strakk betray gresh cuz Loves MoneyMaster Gresh 22:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)